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Why Rick Remender Needs to Stop

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By Eve

Assimilation. Misogyny. Erasure. Dismissal of PTSD. Negation of identity. Fridging of women. Segregation. Child and spousal abuse. Hyper-sexualized teenagers. An abuse victim as the butt of a joke. Prejudice. Racism.

I could go on.

What do all these things have in common? If you said they’re all terrible things, and they shouldn’t be used as non-problematic plot devices in writing, you’d be right. But more than that, these things are all present (and then some) in the Marvel comics currently being written by Rick Remender.

“But wait!” I hear you cry. “I haven’t heard anyone talking about this guy! These all seem like horrible things; shouldn’t people be talking about how bad they are?”

You’re right, people should. But they aren’t. And when they do, they get ignored, or shot down, or silenced.

So what’s Remender been writing? Some out-of-the-way series, right? If nobody’s talking about it, the comics he’s writing can’t be very important, can they?

Rick Remender is the writer of both Captain America and Uncanny Avengers.

They’re important.

And he needs to stop.

Captain America

Rick Remender’s take on one of Marvel’s best-known and best-loved superheroes has certainly been an odd one. His comics are filled with tremendously poor creative decisions that only serve to further Steve Rogers’ man-pain and exacerbate his suffering (something about which Remender seems just a little too gleeful). Issue 1 began with Steve on a mission with Sharon Carter (Agent 13, and also his girlfriend, who sort-of-proposed to him at the beginning of issue 1). During the mission, he was pulled into an alternate dimension called Dimension Z, created by the crazed scientist Arnim Zola, in order for Zola to steal Steve’s blood to recreate the super soldier serum. Steve escaped, stealing an infant child from the lab in which he was imprisoned (and to whom the serum was being given). For the next twelve years, he lived in the wilderness of Dimension Z with the Phroxi (the native population of the dimension) and the child, whom he considered his son and named Ian Rogers. Steve was infected with a Zola consciousness virus (a virus that infects the recipient with a viral form of Zola’s mind, which then takes over the host), and had been holding it off for years when he learned that Zola planned to open a portal to Earth and infect the entire planet with said virus. In his preparations to invade Earth, Zola decided to slaughter all the Phroxi, steal Ian back from Steve using Jet Black Zola—yet another serum-enhanced child the same age as Ian—and brainwash Ian to love Zola and hate Steve. Ian viciously attacked Steve, who only defended himself and begged Ian to break the mind control. But just as Ian succeeded in regaining control of his mind, he was shot through the neck by a suddenly-appearing Agent 13, believing she was saving Steve’s life. Ian fell off the ledge where they were fighting, presumably to his death.

Sharon tried to pull Steve back to Earth, telling him it’d only been minutes since he left, even though it’d been twelve years for him. They joined forces with Jet Black Zola, who had an attack of conscience and was trying to protect the Phroxi from her father instead of kill them. In their group attempt to escape Dimension Z, they were attacked by a gigantic Zola construct. Sharon chose to jump on the construct and drive it into Zola’s battlestation, which she rigged with explosives to destroy before it reached Earth. She detonated the explosives while on the construct, killing it—and herself—in the process. Jet dragged Steve back to Earth, and the readers learned that Dimension Z would now be protected by a man calling himself Nomad. Obviously, Ian somehow survived, but Steve didn’t know that, and was now separated from his son by dimensions.

Back on Earth, Steve refused to talk about his experiences and losses in Dimension Z with either SHIELD or with Jet, and instead wanted to get Jet settled into life on Earth. Upon seeing his apartment (which, strangely enough, was filled with WWII memorabilia and Captain America-related items from the past, including—of all things—Nazi flags), Jet goaded him into burning it all by asking why he was telling her to let go of her past if he lived amid a shrine to it. (Which, incidentally, he had never been shown doing before.) Later, Steve finally talked about Dimension Z with Sam Wilson (Falcon), declaring that he no longer found meaning in the world now that he’d lost Ian. Sam recognized that Steve was in a tremendously fragile mental and emotional state and needed to take a break from the field work and talk to someone about what he went through. But Maria Hill called and insisted Cap come in to deal with Nuke, one of Cap’s old villains. Nuke had been annihilating civilian towns in Eastern Europe and planting American flags there, being directed by a man named Ran Shen (sometimes spelled Ran Shon, or else just lettered extremely poorly), who seemed to be a new supervillain calling himself “Iron Nail.” This “Iron Nail” is a wonderful caricature of the stereotypical “Oriental man who gains dragon powers” and desires to kill and/or incapacitate a vaguely defined geographical area of the world (i.e., the West).

Putting aside the tremendous issues with characterization that have been inherent in all of Remender’s issues of Captain America so far (Steve being stuck in the past and living amidst a shrine to himself, Sharon reduced to a lost love interest, Ian being cannon fodder, and so much more), there are handfuls of problematic things within every single issue. Many of them center on a core idea: reducing characters to one-dimensional stereotypes that are negative at best and horribly offensive at worst. Case in point number one: Joseph Rogers, Steve’s father. Not much was canonically established about Joseph Rogers up until this point, other than the fact that he died when Steve was very young and that he was an alcoholic. In Remender’s flashbacks to Steve’s childhood, Joseph is shown not only being a drunk, but being an abusive drunk, physically assaulting both Sarah Rogers and Steve himself. With this, Remender has not only reduced Steve’s father to the worst kind of Irish immigrant stereotype (as both of Steve’s parents were Irish immigrants), but is using this racist caricature of a character as someone with whom Steve identifies and whose behavior Steve explicitly excuses. Joseph Rogers isn’t the only racist stereotype in Remender’s comics either, as Ran Shen/Shon/whatever, the self-proclaimed “Iron Nail,” is the worst kind of “Oriental villain” stereotype, and seems more reminiscent of comics written during the Red Scare than a character from 2013. He gains his powers from a dragon, hates the “capitalist pigs” and wants to bring them to their knees, and repeatedly waxes rhapsodic about how he wants to “drive a nail into the heart of the West.” (For a villain who’s supposedly been trying to kill the West since 1969, he seems remarkably ineffective.) Instead of using well-written, compelling characters to drive the story and to influence the backstory of one of the greatest heroes in the Marvel universe, Remender has used racist stereotypes and offensive caricatures. Great.

Steve himself has been extremely poorly characterized during this run of Captain America, but not as much as he has been after returning to Earth. As a reader, I didn’t have a tremendously huge problem with Steve’s behavior prior to Captain America 11, though I did take exception to Remender having Steve identify with his abusive father and justify his behavior. But after his return to Earth, the true problems started: Steve is, and has been clearly shown to be, affected by PTSD due to his experiences in Dimension Z and the losses he suffered because of it. Yet, whenever help or support is offered to him, he refuses it. He refuses leave time, he refuses to talk to SHIELD staff, he refuses to talk to Jet, and he refuses to let anyone on Earth know about Ian’s existence except for Sam. Let me make this clear: Captain America is shown repeatedly refusing help for his severe PTSD and grief. What kind of message does that send to people who are affected with PTSD (which may be true for a larger segment of Captain America readers, many of whom are associated with the military)? That they should suck it up and deal with it on their own? That they shouldn’t need help? That they don’t need help? That it’s somehow wrong or weak to need or want help? This is absolutely unacceptable, and is both dismissive of and insensitive towards those who do have PTSD.

Remender also has significant problems with two other issues: women, and death. Sometimes both at the same time. The character of Ian Rogers was created, quite literally, to be taken away from Steve. He appeared for ten issues, was loved like a son by Steve, and was brainwashed, “killed” (except not really), separated from his father, and left behind in a dimension where time moves much more quickly, meaning that after Steve spent an hour or so back on Earth, Ian would be dead in Dimension Z time. Ian was created not to be a character, but to be a source of grief and isolating loss for Steve.

Jet Black Zola has also become quite a problematic character for Remender, as he keeps forgetting something quite important about her identity: her age. Jet Black Zola is fourteen years old. And yet, inevitably, she is shown wearing nothing more than strategically placed straps wrapped around her body (similar to Leeloo in The Fifth Element) as her battle armor. (An example of it can be seen here.) On Earth, the only outfits she’s been shown to wear are her battle armor and a strapless bra paired with underwear. In Captain America 12, there are panels that focus on the faces of the two male heroes in the scene (Sam and Steve) while focusing on Jet’s underwear-clad ass. And as each issue passes, Jet looks less and less like a fourteen-year-old girl and more like an adult female, complete with instances of attempted seduction and generalized femme fatale behavior. It’s worth repeating: she is fourteen years old. Not only is hyper-sexualization of a child who’s barely into her teens off-putting, to say the least, it’s not even a remotely acceptable use of a young female character in what’s supposed to be one of Marvel’s most important comics.

And let’s talk about Sharon Carter. Agent 13, the grand-niece of Peggy Carter, one of SHIELD’s most capable and dangerous agents, and a fearsome fighter and spy in her own right. Tough, strong, independent, not afraid to stand up for herself, and always willing to speak her mind. Partner of Captain America in every sense of the word, both on the battlefield and off of it. Sharon Carter, who’s due to appear in a Marvel Studios film in April 2014, entitled Captain America: The Winter Soldier (I’m sure you’ve all heard of it; it’s kind of a big deal). Sharon. Carter.

Who, apparently, can’t think of a better plan to defeat a giant Zola robot and blow up a battlestation than to jump on the giant Zola and then blow up the battlestation, herself included, to save Steve’s life.

Right. Because, you know, forcing the giant Zola into the battlestation and blowing it up remotely wasn’t an option. Or outrunning the giant Zola, then blowing the base. Or blowing the base from back on Earth. Or anything else.

Apart from how ridiculously out-of-character Remender’s Sharon happens to be, the treatment of Sharon and of her death is appalling. Sharon dies in issue 10. Since then, no character in the entirety of the Marvel comics universe—those in Captain America included—has mourned Sharon’s loss. Characters have expressed their sympathies to Steve at her death, but not one character has mourned Sharon because she was Sharon, not because she was important to Steve. The closest we’ve come is with Sam Wilson and Maria Hill, both of whom knew and worked with Sharon for a long time. Yet all we get out of them is standard expressions of sympathy to Steve, as they’re sorry for his loss. Sharon’s death has not been acknowledged anywhere else in Marvel’s comics; whether that’s due to other writers not agreeing with her being fridged or simply because Marvel hasn’t seen the need, we don’t really know. Sharon is no longer a person, she is a loss. She is yet another way to cause Steve pain.

I, for one, have had enough of that.

For all that Remender tends to default to killing characters to make his books shocking and thus “likely” to get better sales numbers, he’s been doing an abysmal job with Captain America. Readership of the comic dropped by over 50 percent between issues 1 and 3 (from 123,667 sales of issue 1 to 59,836 sales of issue 3), and dropped nearly another 50 percent between issue 2’s 64,377 sales and issue 12’s 38,684 sales. That’s a drop in readership of almost 70 percent from issue 1 to issue 12. In October 2013, Captain America sales were outsold by titles such as Deadpool Kills Deadpool, Kick-Ass, Hawkeye, Superior Spider-Man Team Up Special, and the interestingly named Afterlife with Archie. One of Marvel’s flagship titles was outsold by a comic about Deadpool killing alternate versions of himself and something named Afterlife with Archie. These numbers don’t speak to the qualities of these other comics (as I am a die-hard fan of Hawkeye), but the titles above are and have never been intended to be flagship comics, no matter how great they might be. A flagship title typically sells around 60 to 80 thousand copies per issue—at minimum—while Remender’s Captain America run hasn’t hit those numbers since nearly a full year ago, in December 2012. The fact that the sales numbers show miniseries comics and smaller, more niche comics outselling a title that is as iconic as Captain America indicates a major problem. Clearly, whatever Rick Remender is trying to sell us in Captain America, fewer and fewer people are buying it.

He needs to stop.

Uncanny Avengers

If you thought Rick Remender couldn’t top his problematic writing in Captain America, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but Uncanny Avengers has been a problem since its beginning issues and shows no signs of stopping any time soon. Despite dropping a whopping 80 percent in readership since issue 1 (and 60 percent between the first two issues alone), its sales numbers remain in the sixty thousands, which are more than enough to keep it going. Even when it probably shouldn’t.

Uncanny Avengers began as a combination team between Avengers and mutants in the wake of Charles Xavier’s death at the hands of the Phoenix Force-possessed Cyclops (Scott Summers), as a way to foster human-mutant goodwill and positive interaction. Of course, all of that went south pretty quickly, as the Red Skull decided to steal Professor Xavier’s brain and somehow merge it with his own. This gave him the powerful mutant abilities of the Professor and enabled him to cause all sorts of ruckus and violent anti-mutant sentiment in the general public. However, things came to a head in issue 5, where Alex Summers (Havok, who just so happens to be a white, blonde-haired, blue-eyed male who looks just like any other human on the street) stated in a public press conference that he saw the word “mutant” as divisive, almost as a slur, that is used to separate people from each other, and wanted to be viewed as a person first, as “just Alex,” instead of as a mutant. While the intentions behind the speech seem to be good—Alex wants those with the X-gene to be seen as people, not monsters or villains to be met with fear and hatred—the execution of the speech gives a different message entirely.

Alex: “Having an X-gene doesn’t bond me to anyone. It doesn’t define me. In fact, I see the very word ‘mutant’ as divisive. Old thinking that serves to further separate us from our fellow man. We are all humans. Of one tribe. We are defined by our choices, not the makeup of our genes. So please, don’t call us mutants. The ‘M’ word represents everything I hate.”

Despite the intentions, Alex’s stance on mutants comes off as one that advocates assimilation and erasure for individuals who belong to minority groups. With this speech, Alex visibly and deliberately rejects his identity as a mutant (and is able to do so easily, given his outward appearance lets him pass as a “normal” human and gives no clues to the fact that he’s a mutant), asks people not to call him a mutant, and equates a term that defines who and how he is with a slur. He gives the public no way to identify this part of himself, implying that he doesn’t want to be defined by it, and wants the rest of the mutant community to do the same. Identifying as a “mutant” divides the population, he says, and it’s best to not divide it at all, and just call everyone the same thing in order to solve the problem.

Because it’s divisive to be who you are. Because being “divisive” is bad, and preventing this division is more important than being true to who and how you are. Because if a part of your identity makes other people angry, you need to get rid of that part and pretend you’re no different than everybody else to make everyone happy. Because you have to assimilate to be acceptable to society. Because you have to deny the part of yourself that makes people upset—you have to erase it.

If mutants are taken as a stand-in for all minority groups whose rights have been repeatedly oppressed, as they often are, these statements become very problematic. “I’m not a mutant, I’m human” becomes “I’m not gay, I’m human” becomes “I’m not black, I’m human” becomes “I’m not a woman, I’m human.” It asks those who fall under these marginalized minority categories to deny one part of their identity to gain the “better” identity, the one that everyone ascribes to. It wants the less desirable identity be ignored, because it’s upsetting to other people and therefore should be hidden. It suggests that being “mutant” and “human” are separate things, as if being a woman or black or gay or anything else could be a separate thing from being human as well.

Remender claims to have identified with Marvel’s mutants at a young age because of being alienated for who he was. But despite how he may have felt and been treated as a child, Remender comes at the issue from a place of privilege. Rick Remender is a white, cisgendered, heterosexual male. No matter how he acted or what he liked when he was young, those four things automatically put him at a different level from anyone who belongs to the LGBTQIA+ community or to any other minority group that constantly has its rights trampled on. Rick Remender’s identity will never be denied him the same way that a trans* person’s or a bisexual person’s or an asexual person’s identity might be. Rick Remender will never be told that his race, gender, or orientation is problematic and makes people uncomfortable. Rick Remender will never be told that he cannot be who and how he is because it’s unacceptable to other people. He cannot understand the mutant metaphor from the perspective of the people with whom it most closely resonates.

When those people reached out, expressing reservations over Alex’s speech or anger about the message being conveyed, Remender’s response via Twitter was clear.

Remender tweet

 

Within the comic itself, Rogue is the only member of the team who consistently presents an opposing opinion to Alex’s. In fact, her opinions are more reflective of the views of the general public who don’t agree with the message of minority assimilation and erasure. In a team full of Avengers and mutants, including such members as Wolverine and the Scarlet Witch (two of Marvel’s most famous mutants), no other character besides Rogue has a problem with Alex’s claims. In fact, when the team debates the topic in issue 9 during a training room simulation, the entire rest of the team gangs up against Rogue, backing up Alex’s viewpoints and shooting Rogue down.

Wanda: “Alex didn’t tell anyone not to be proud of whom he or she is. Don’t extrapolate your own version—listen, and speak to, what the man actually said.”

Wanda is even used as a means for the author himself to say “Go back and read it again, you’re not getting what I’m trying to say, and if you’re getting something else out of it, you’re wrong.” Within the team, Rogue is completely alone in her disagreement with Alex’s views, despite other Marvel writers using their own characters to stand up for mutant and minority representation in their books. (A wonderful example of Kitty Pride taking apart Alex’s speech showed up in Brian Michael Bendis’ All-New X-Men a few weeks before Uncanny Avengers 10 came out). The only other people who have issues with Alex’s viewpoints are—you guessed it—the “bad guys” of the series, as a great speech is given to Banshee in issue 12 about his anger at Alex selling his own people out and Captain America not doing enough for mutants when he of all people should know what it feels like to be hated (being the son of Irish immigrants in the 1920s and 1930s). Here’s the kicker: Banshee is a Horseman of the Apocalypse for the Apocalypse Twins, hence an antagonist.

The issue has been taken even a step further, as the Apocalypse Twins showed up in the comics and declared they would be performing a mutant rapture to bring all the mutants to a planet of their own, because separating the humans from the mutants was the only way to save both groups. Currently, the Scarlet Witch and Wonder Man both seem to be endorsing this plan and helping them enact it. So basically, segregation is being touted as their answer to everything. Great.

And if advocating assimilation, erasure, and segregation weren’t enough after giving the opinions of people who are fighting for the end of discrimination and prejudice to a villain, Remender actually uses an abuse victim’s trauma as the punch line of a joke. In issue 12, Janet Van Dyne (the Wasp) struggles to say the word “ant” when comparing the size of the Twins’ ship to the original Apocalypse, and subsequently gets teased for stumbling over it by Alex. Jan was romantically involved with Hank Pym (Ant Man) for a long time and even married to him, but it has been shown in comics that he was physically abusive towards her, at least once if not more than that. If Jan is still so traumatized by her relationship with Hank that she can’t even say the word “ant,” that is not something for which she should be made fun of. Like any traumatic or triggering situation, it is not something that should be treated as comic. Yet there it is in issue 12, being treated like the punch line in yet another one of Remender’s string of not-that-funny jokes.

Remender’s treatment of the mutant metaphor boils down to telling people who have been constantly discriminated against because of their differences that their identities are negative and divisive things, and they shouldn’t identify themselves in that way. It’s easier not to rock the boat, so people whose identities would rock the boat should bury those identities as deep as possible, so as not to upset everyone else.

This is not okay.

Rick Remender needs to stop.

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More information about the issues surrounding Uncanny Avengers 5 can be found at Comics Alliance, Bleeding Cool, and Newsarama. All comic book sales estimates obtained from Comichron.

Author’s Note: Directly after this article was published, Uncanny Avengers 14 was released, which included the graphically violent deaths of both the Scarlet Witch and Rogue. For a more in-depth discussion of that comic, you can read the comic reviews for the week of November 27, 2013.

For an up-to-date summary of Remender’s atrocities in Captain America as of July 2, 2014, chujo-hime’s Tumblr post is a great place to start, and includes links to other sites and posts talking about some of the issues more comprehensively.

If you’re a reader—and buyer—of Marvel comics, I strongly encourage you and any other comic readers you know to let Marvel know how you feel about what Rick Remender has been doing in his comics. Send your letters to mheroes@marvel.com (don’t forget to mark any letters as “okay to print”), and ask them why women’s deaths keep getting thrown around as cheap plot devices. Ask them why they think the way Remender treats his female characters is acceptable, because it is not. Ask them why they continue to employ a writer who fridges women, who continually uses damaging racist, sexist, misogynistic stereotypes as if they weren’t problematic, and who advocates assimilation and erasure of minority identities. Ask them how they can endorse a writer who thinks he can explain away statutory rape.

I thought it seven months ago, and I still think it now: Rick Remender needs to stop. But more than that, Rick Remender needs to go.

Eve – Contributing Comics Writer

Eve is an asexual panromantic, a recent college graduate with a degree in the sciences and nothing to show for it, and an avid consumer of any type of media she can get her hands on. When she’s not perusing her insanely large collection of Marvel comics, she can be found either knitting in front of the television or on her laptop. She is also a passionate bibliophile.

 

  • Stephen

    Hi, sorry for coming so late to this conversation. Just had a few issues with your piece…

    While I do share a lot of the same positions as you, the writer, coming from a largely liberal background (complementing my undergraduate studies at UC Santa Cruz) it really saddens me to read this piece.

    For many reasons I can’t agree with most of what you say.

    I’m a long time comic reader, and you are completely biased in your view of him and constantly overreach in your arguments.

    First off, man-pain? I’m offended (maybe that’s my bias as a person who is white cisgendered (even though I came from a largely impoverished and multicultural community where I was in the minority as a perceived white male when I’m actually mixed).

    Secondly, Jet Black is around 24 at least in the comics, even mentioning how she had her first glass of wine.

    And the Nazi flags? I cringed that you attacked Remender on that bit because I’m highly confused why that’s an issue? I can see if that meant Cap was promoting Nazi beliefs, or that he was appropriating it or if you were asking about museum politics and the rights to such memorabilia, but its only war memorabilia. Captain America is a soldier, and very famous and public one. So of course he would have all those pieces of memorabilia around. He’s a public figure known as a soldier. so what exactly is wrong with the depiction of the Nazi flag or that Steve Rogers keeps war memorabilia? What is offensive?

    Also, characterization of the Joseph Rogers can be stereotypical but not necessary racist, just because they do fit a stereotype does that mean that the person automatically doesn’t and cannot exist? If it was a caricature and made fun of the stereotype, then there can be a legitimate call for racism. But other than that I don’t see it.

    Also on Joseph Rogers, I never got the sense that Steve was advocating for bad behavior, but that Steve was mature enough to forgive his father, not condone what he did, and Remender crafted a narrative that praised the strength of the mother, not the father, and how Steve was raised and given strength by his mother, and that he feared becoming like his abusive father. So Steve was having sympathy for a man who tried but failed. Which I couldn’t help but see you do exactly the opposite for a man you see who has tried and failed under your standard.

    I also didn’t see Sharon as being fridged. Largely because that type of sacrifice is something to celebrate and to expect out of heroes, to make the life and death choices. Fridging is about putting a woman who is largely a powerless love interest to be killed off as a dramatic device to push the hero to fight on. With Sharon, this was the end of the fight. Steve wasn’t being taunted to chase the bad guy. In this, Sharon was the hero while Steve sat idly by. Not fridging. And any male hero is also put in that situation. Same thing happened with bucky to use an immediate example. Just because it’s a woman in the male comic so doesn’t make it fridging. She was the hero. And as you wrote this comic before it came out, she actually was never killed which is why the (completely valid) point of yours about where her much deserved funeral was maybe wasn’t included. (if you want an actual example of possible fridging in Remender’s work, maybe look up the Venom issue of his where both Venom girlfriend and mother are both just about fridged at the same time in the same issue, it was a bit much).

    You also speak of PTSD, and Stevens lack of care for it. Well, things don’t go well for him because of it. Remender, if you’re familiar with his work, usually writes men, yes, but he always writes tragic heroes, which in English class you learned always failed because of some fatal flaw. And Remender is really brutal. He puts all his heroes through the grinder and the drama is because of the fatal flaw. The plot is driven and further complicated by the flaw. If they were perfect heroes there would be no drama anyway. It serves to know that the first heroes he wrote for Marvel was Punisher, Venom, and the Uncanny X-Force, all really dark and brutal books. Which he brings to his narrative on Captain America and Uncanny Avengers. So he’s not promoting the dismissal of PTSD, he’s showing what neglecting it does. the book Uncanny X-Force is hinged on the whole idea that bottling up mistakes and dealing with them yourself is the wrong way to go about them.

    It should be noted he has said, because he’s dealt with depression and serious problems in the past, TV at he’s never written a hopeful character. All were pessimistic and miserable people. The first hopeful character he wrote was, fittingly, a woman. Who is the strongest and most optimistic person in a world that everything was taken from everyone an everyone is hopeless and narcissistic (the book is called “Low”), and it happens to have Remender’s first female protagonist too.

    About Ran Shen, I do see your point and do cringe. I wouldn’t lie, its a bit much. It is a bit racist. The only thing I can say against that is to read the miniseries “The Winter Soldier” by Rick Remender. Because Ran Shen in actually the protagonist who is hopelessly western and then gets the veil taken from his eyes, which is how Remender characterizes such a far swing into caricature with the Iron Nail, but it doesn’t excuse that it’s still racist.

    Also, as someone who studied in the humanities, I am further convinced that it’s your bias talking in your piece, because you’re reaching so much that you even attack that Ran Shen is attacking the “ambiguous geography” of the “West”. The “West” is not a geography. Its a geopolitical designation. Its not ambitious. It references not a country, but all countries that embody western ideals of capitalism and democracy. If you studied any cold war theory or history. You’d know that it was a real perspective to wipe out the west, its what drove cold warriors, and the first document you should read if you do look into this is the widely known Truman doctrine. Ran Shen was a product of the Cold War. That’s his characterization and that’s what he represents. But since it’s a throwback to the cold war, its probably why Rick decided to characterize him that way.

    Also, you early on deride how problematic his characterization is, you even detail his shrine to himself and his living in the past. I already talked but the shrine to himself, but the living in the past isn’t out of character. Literally his whole characterization has, and its part of what makes his character unique, and there’s even a even a phrase for it, it’s called “man out of time”. Its something Remender wanted to explore. Its why he did that, its also why he had Steve Rogers bottle up, it shows how uncomfortable it is to deal with PTSD and feeling like you don’t belong. But I assume you expect your Captain America to be perfect and not relatable? There was nothing wrong with his characterization. If anything was different, it was because Rick Remender put Steve Rogers in a new position and pushed him to his limits, with something unfamiliar (like dimension z and everything that came with it). So it was the characterization, it was the context, William every writer strives to bring something new and to push their character to t new and further limits. Its what makes comics so renewable instead of telling the same exact tired stories.

    You talk about comic sales. but if you knew anything about comic sales, and also why Marvel has recently switched to a “seasonal model”, #1s almost always outsell anything after, and usually by exponentially greater figures. Also, you insinuate that Rick Remender is ranking it and later say that he should just stop (for all the various reasons you outlined in your piece), and it stands to reason that his “bad” writing is the cause of it and he should take notice. But sales aren’t actually as bad. You just interpreted the figures wrong and are just an alarmist reveling I biased figures. You conclude that Captain America is beloved and one of the most well-known figures, so that his comic sales are doing so bad as you showed with your skewed and biased stats. But I say skewed because as I mentioned all 1’s are going to be higher, but even more than that, his sales in all runs of the past decade were never that high, even Ed Brubaker, someone who wrote the death of Captain America and brought back bucky, in his reboot where he wanted to bring back a more classic take (without Brubaker signature spy and espionage angle of Captain America) to the character it didn’t even last a year. Spider-man and X-men and by far the most popular franchises, Deadpool too, which his miniseries’ have been doing so great that he gets a miniseries regularly, largely because the popularity of the character, but you use that as evidence to show how far Cap has sunk. Its not just Cap, Iron Man has pretty much never been popular, almost one of the least popular in comics, even the movies don’t help him in contrast. And women’s comics, as much as I’m an ardent support and buy almost all of them, because they’re, actually really good, almost never last and their sales are dipping (current ones are Captain Marvel, Black widow, and the amazing amazing Ms. Marvel (go buy Ms. Marvel if you haven’t started already), to name a few), but I wouldn’t advocate for the gleeful enjoyment of seeing those dip or even say they lack quality writing and deduce that’s the reason their sales are dipping because they don’t lack quality. And Hawkeye by Matt Fraction is amazing. It should be above Captain America.

    But let’s look at Matt Fractions Hawkeye and Captain America. I was really deterred at first by two things, the genre of the book and artist. I don’t like JRJR. And Rick Remender sold his book as a sci-fi book. I wasn’t a fan because sci-fi is cool but it’s niche and its not captain America to me. I also didn’t like zola. But I liked Rick Remender’s work previously so I gave it a shot. So as much as sci-fi in cap doesn’t seem likely (which is what I would consider off about the book, and because of such an unusual setting and genre, I can see how one can think characterization would be off, its not off, the setting and context for the character is just different), but I both liked what he did with cap and t even zola he made me like as a villain. The reason why i was sold on the book was because Captain America was still
    Captain America.

    You claim. Also that he promotes assimilation. I don’t believe that. I generally believe Rick Remender is wholly indifferent to that. Not that he does not care or doesn’t think about it, I just think it’s not the message he’s trying to send. Not everyone needs to fight for social justice in terms of race etc. (even though people should still believe one way or another), he may want to focus on poverty or beo-imperilism or something dealing with foreign politics or community interaction where the focus isn’t on race. I just don’t see that as his message when it comes to his work. He cares, he has platforms, its just not what he writes about. also, the line about havok. I don’t think he was advocating for assimilation, he was advocating on treating people fairly. Havok is still going to be a mutant. He won’t hide his gifts, he’s leader of the Avengers, just the same with the analogy of the mutants in comics he’s going to represent mutants and he will be different and havok will flaunt it. It was more about equality than assimilation.

    Also, about wonder man and scarlet witch, well, you know by now they were playing the twins and weren’t for segregation. The whole team was trying to fight it in their own separate ways which led to half the team getting killed (including captain America, who is a white cisgendered male). And also sunrise and wolverine are later showed to endure five years of torture, with wolverine being heated to atomic temperatures by sunrises hand, and I doubt that’s some embedded message about male to male violence or torture port. This is because Rick Remender’s message wasn’t about segregation or violence against women at all, but about fighting for social issues like segregation that we need to be unified or fail. Get it, his whole message is about unity, as in the Avengers unity squad, which is what they named the Avengers squad in the comics. Also, everyone by use of time travel was essentially resurrected and they had a unified effort to stop the twins.

    About Twitter, you attack him because of his hobo-piss tweet. Well, if you didn’t blindly and didnt have such a skewed perception, if you had at least a modicum of sympathy in this instead of being so hostile, you’d realize that Rick Remender has a really weird sense of humor and he meant that as a joke, and if you go through his tweets it was just just a poorly placed joke that the court of public opinion, without reading back into any other material, deemed as so inconsiderate, when that’s largely you,

    But if you wanted to know how he deals with issues, I actually like the nuke arc in Captain America because it dealt with themes of neo-imperilism and media in the modern age. And how symbols can be subverted by well-intentioned people. And how emotions and war and PTSD effect soldiers like nuke.

    Going back to the idea of Canon, and how you deride reminder for writing canon for his father, because God forbid anyone add anything meaningful to a character and their growth, I must say that every writer takes liberties and adds to canon. Its what they do playing in a sandbox that had such a history as marvel. Its how you create new stories, you fill in the blanks. But if everything you say is true in your article, I actually do believe in progressive change and should you be right society will change and with it, comics recon things all the time .

    But as you see, I only really addressed your issues with captain America because, well, I couldn’t really read much further and skimmed over the Uncanny avengers section.

    I do respect you, and I do have sympathy for your argument and see what you’re saying. I just simply cannot agree with it. Please have sympathy for Remender likewise.

  • ajpursell

    Coming in late as I just read most of the run available on the Marvel Unlimited app, but no mention of Jet Black’s sudden age change being a rip off of Green Lantern Arisa? Even that is unoriginal and has already been met with scorn. This whole run has not been good.

  • FigureFour

    About the Captain America sales, I think that ha a lot to do with JRJR’s art as well, not just Rick’s writing, I love his writing I think it’s great, but I couldn’t get myself to buy anymore Cap comics due to the art.

  • Nick

    I just stumbled across this post quite a bit late and thought I would post a response.

    I wanted to say a few things, but I wanted to primarily speak on the notion of “man pain.” In one of your comments you clarify what you mean by it, but regardless of that the term is offensive in a few ways. The term “man pain” brings with it a distinct tone of sarcasm and derision and despite your intentions it keeps a negative phrase about the pain suffered by men floating around in the world. Pain and suffering is negative regardless of what group you belong to.

    • Nick

      To follow up. Depression in American society is marginalized and frowned upon still. It takes something like Robin Williams committing suicide to wake people up to it. Now that is a sad statement about the state of the world that it take that to make people concerned about suicide prevention.

      As a white heterosexual male I realize I am in the majority and that I have never been discriminated against based solely on who I am, but I am a male who has suffered with depression for 17 of his 30 years alive. I think terms like man pain only serve to reinforce the negative views of males with depression. Men aren’t supposed to get sad or be depressed. Society tells us we’re supposed to strong and emotionless and then many men believe that and keep all their pain hidden. “Man pain” continues to give men a reason to hide their pain.

  • Jon

    I’m uncomfortable with the term “manpain.” I’d appreciate it if this site didn’t use a term that promotes the idea that men shouldn’t be allowed to have feelings or deal with things poorly in fiction. Other than that, I agree with the sentiments in the article.

    • http://therainbowhub.com/ Eve

      I apologize; my use of that term was in no way intended to be derogatory towards emotional pain experienced by men. As a writer and a long-time reader of comics, I use “man-pain” to refer to the trope about the excessive, overdramatic pain given to male characters which is focused on as the most important thing to the character or the story. Often, this kind of pain is created by exploiting the death or loss of loved ones–especially women and children, hence why I used it here in reference to Remender’s decision to kill Sharon and separate Steve and Ian. It is the pain that their deaths cause Steve that is the focus, rather than the characters themselves, and they become plot devices rather than people.

  • Adam Ryland

    I’m not going to argue with you about Rick’s writing. I’m only going to comment on Uncanny Avengers. What havok said is not a controversial or dangerous and especially not wrong as default position to take. As a minority in America, what Havok said has resonated with me far more so than anything Prof X or Magento has said.

    People have criticized it as assimilation. I don’t believe that is a bad word, and I strongly disagree that. Remender’s POV shouldn’t be treated as lesser or irrelevant because he is white. Plenty of white guys have written previous X books. Most likely the ones you like. You didn’t hold their race against them then because you liked what they said.

  • GhostMatter

    Reading your article really did not make me feel good (I’ll spare you the more precise adjectives), I perceived it not as harsh criticism, which is fine, but mean criticism. Reading your answers to comments though, I feel much better, you seem more level-headed in these. I understand you most likely felt angry but if you had displayed that level-headedness in writing the text, you’d have had credibility in my eyes.

    – In the comments, you actually recognize that Remender doesn’t necessarily talk through his characters but then say he does because of interviews, but you give no sources!
    – Jet Black grew to more than 14 in the 11 years since Cap raised Ian.
    – Cap is an old WWII dude, he doesn’t know how to react to PTSD. People don’t say anything because he’s THE Captain America and believe him when he says he’s okay. Every single reaction to PTSD is different.
    – Why couldn’t Joseph Rogers be an Irish immigrant who happens to be abusive? Why does he have to “be reduced to a stereotype”?
    – Why can’t Ian be his own character? Because he’s in Dimension Z, away his father? His time with Steve didn’t matter? He’s not dead.
    – While I agree Sharon seems to have been fridged, she’s not necessarily mourned everywhere because she’s a Captain America-based character. She wasn’t an Avenger as far as I know. And the timelien in some Marvel series is sketchy, so we don’t know if this happens before or after other series exactly.
    – You don’t know how Remender was alienated. Maybe he has mental health issues, maybe he’s intersex and didn’t tell anyone or maybe, etc. There’s no competition where LGBTQIA+ are at a “different level” of oppression. This is not the Oppression Olympics.
    – You fail to mention his apologies about the tweet.

    I haven’t read the series yet (though I know most of what happens) so I can’t comment on some of the things but I suspect I would disagree with you with our current track record of agreement vs disagreements. Next time you write a text like this, I believe you should re-read it after a day or two before publishing it.

  • Jimmy

    I don’t think you know enough about craft or the subject matter at hand- be it comics, writing, or the horrible issues you’re suggesting Remender is throwing in our faces -to have this discussion. You’re making yourself feel better by blaming a writer of fiction, with little impact on the real world, for a host of real world problems because of the cynical message you read into his writing. One example- and I’m limiting myself to one, otherwise we would be here all day -do you not think there’s a point to Cap not wanting help with his PTSD? That perhaps this is a character flaw, and he isn’t coping well? And you’re in the middle of the story? When you write ill-educated, faux-intellectual pieces like this, you’re actually distracting from the idea of solving any of these problems and, honestly, trivializing them more than any super-hero comic book story could do. It makes you the saddest, worst kind of hypocrite: you’re trivializing the things you’re accusing Remender of trivializing. Have you ever thought that instead of being ridiculous and tearing people down and calling them things like hateful, you might try to create something that contributes? Just some friendly advice.

    • E

      Thanks so much with your comment. Was thinking the same from this over the top critique. Have not read Captain America but Uncanny Avengers has some of the best storytelling going on regardless of what people thought of havoks statement. REally was turned off by how the writer of this piece was generating so many assumptions based on her reaction/interpretation of the story. Eve, in todays society i would be considered a ‘minority’ In america but please dont speak for me because i dont aGree with you. I for one have enjoyed the writings coming from that white heterosexual male named rick remender.

  • Anna

    Eve i just want to say thank you for writing this article. Every time a issue of uncanny avengers comes out i see less people who look like me and more like objects. It worse when Eimin… the villian of the book… got her eyes cut out by her brother and that wasp is going to havoks wife in the next arc. Your reviews are only ones that dont support this sexist crap. (looks angry at x men supreme.)
    Anna

  • Gorhob Perkins

    Hilarious article by walking sterotype. 10/10 would lol again.

  • Juan Bravo

    You haven’t been reading Afterlife With Archie?!?! It’s BRILLIANT!! Highly recommended you read it. Also, don’t knock Fraction and Aja’s Hawkguy series. That’s also a top 5 comic series of the year for me.

    • http://therainbowhub.com/ Eve

      Knocking Hawkeye? I wouldn’t dream of it! I’m an avid reader of Hawkeye, and have been reading and buying the comics since issue 1. Hawkeye is actually the reason I set up an actual pull list at my local comic shop instead of just picking up comics, because I wanted to make absolutely sure I’d have a copy every time it dropped. No, the reason I included Hawkeye and Afterlife with Archie (as well as the other comics I mentioned) is because they’re not flagship titles. A flagship title typically sells around 60 to 80 thousand copies per issue, at minimum. Rick Remender’s Captain America has not hit those numbers since December of 2012, nearly a full year ago.

      The problem with Rick Remender’s run, in terms of numbers, is that a flagship comic like Captain America is being outsold by comics that are not historically flagship titles, have never been flagship titles, and have never been expected to be flagship titles, no matter how amazing they may be. (Personally, I think Hawkeye deserves to be selling much more than it is. Eisner Award, anyone?) And for the sales numbers to show miniseries comics and smaller or more niche comics outselling something like Captain America? That tells me there’s a problem.

  • koltreg

    I agree with you on most of the points, I read both series since my friend gets the digital versions, but I have some points of dissension and probably confusion on my part.

    With Steve not wanting to share his PTSD, I think that is actually pretty realistic for a man who was a WW2 vet, who has faced cosmic monsters before and who has never had these issues. Losing two people, letting that affect him so much. These would be serious issues that he’d have reasonable issues sharing. I’d give Remender the benefit of the doubt that he might actually address it more realistically later on or allow it to escalate because what does it mean for Steve if this becomes general knowledge. Remender likes to do his haunted characters with slow burns, though probably when the movie comes out, I can see them either ending this by bringing Sharon back or just ignoring this.

    As for killing Ian off, I think Remender earned it in a way. He made a character who brought in a new side to Steve, though trying to equate Steve with his father was problematic. There are differences between making hard choices because the economy is bad and you drink and making hard choices because you are in a killer wasteland.

    With Jet Black and Sharon though, I do agree. Jet Black is a poorly thought out attempt to make a Big Barda for the Marvel Universe but the age issue (though I thought she was 18 or 19 after the jump) was weird and part of the issue is the inability for a lot of artists to draw younger women without sexualizing them. I can see this as more of an editorial issue.

    With Sharon, killing her, especially after lauding her return, was messed up. I concur that she should have escaped and the only think that sort of made sense was some throwaway line about Sharon previously being captured by Zola but that takes out the context when Zola may have killed her child with Steve and that is also a whole other can of worms. It was a crappy thing to do and I hope she is back in the movie.

    It was a failed attempt to bring back Kirby magic because it lacked a lot of joy and wonder that Kirby brought and instead put in old tropes.

    As for Uncanny Avengers, I want to say Alex is supposed to be wrong on purpose, like Remender doesn’t believe what Alex says, like Alex is the stereotypical black friend who doesn’t mind the white friend saying the n-word, especially when it got commented on. But the problem is like you said, Remender has issues understanding non-majority identity amongst other things and the really bad thing is Remender wants to make himself a guy who brings diversity to comics and he fails badly. With his creator owned stuff he lauds himself for rotating between male and female led series every time but then his female characters are usually problematic or poorly developed. And that’s not even bringing up his inability and seeming unwillingness to bring actual diversity into comics.

    Remender is doing well now though so barring a really bad misstep I doubt he’ll be taken out soon, but honestly thank you for posting the article. A lot of the people I know and talk comics with don’t have similar qualms if they’ve read these series so it is nice to know others see the problems as well.

    • http://therainbowhub.com/ Eve

      Hi koltreg! Thanks so much for your incredibly thoughtful comment. With regards to your thoughts about Steve’s PTSD as a WWII veteran, I thought I should explain: the reason I’m reacting so negatively to the portrayal of Steve’s PTSD is twofold. First, his response to it (bottling it up, thinking he’s weak for feeling it, etc.) is being portrayed as acceptable and appropriate, when it is in fact not an acceptable or healthy way to think about PTSD. If his actions were being met with responses from his friends and colleagues of “Steve, it’s okay to grieve,” “Steve, you should not and do not need to be in the field right now,” “Steve, it’s okay to be feeling these things,” “Steve, it might help to talk to somebody about what happened,” etc., then my response would be very different. Instead, we’re given a character with severe PTSD, and the response from the characters around him is “It doesn’t matter how he’s feeling, we need him to man up and do his job more than we need him to be okay.” Only one character puts up a half-hearted protest to his reactivation as a hero, and is quickly overruled.

      Secondly, in the main Marvel comics universe (designation 616), Steve Rogers is more or less always ten years out from being dethawed from the ice. (Comics timelines are very handwavy in this case.) In this situation, he’s now twenty-two years out from the ice, roughly, given the extra twelve years he spent in Dimension Z. Steve has had tremendous personal losses before, the most important of which was waking up out of the ice to learn that all his friends, family, and colleagues–really, everyone he ever knew, give or take maybe five people–were dead. Steve has dealt with tremendous grief and loss before, and although it wasn’t talked about the same way as it is now, I think it’s safe to say that fresh-out-of-the-ice Steve had PTSD as well, since he had really just woken up from a war zone to find his life in ashes. He’s dealt with it before, and never in this way. It strikes me as odd to find a character such as Steve undergoing such a radical character shift to suddenly view his emotions as “weak” and internalize them, when he’s been arguably one of the most well-adjusted Avengers for years.

      Regarding your comments on Uncanny Avengers, oh, I wish Remender didn’t believe what Alex says! Unfortunately, he’s gone on the record numerous times saying that Alex’s position is completely valid and that he agrees with him, since it’s more important to see people as people and so on and so forth, and that anyone who disagrees either needs to go back and read his words again or is just plain wrong. It’s sad to me as a consumer of comics to see someone in charge of two series that are supposed to be flagship comics for one of the biggest comic publishers in the world fail at understanding his audience so badly that he incorporates their viewpoint as the viewpoint of one of the antagonists (as well as a character who just got impaled and electrocuted to death).

      If you’ve been concerned by the problematic nature of Rick Remender’s comics (as they’ve only gotten worse, considering that Uncanny Avengers 15 came out the day this article was published on the Rainbow Hub, in which both the Scarlet Witch and Rogue were brutally killed within the space of eight pages), I strongly urge you to make your voice heard to Marvel by writing in to mheroes@marvel.com (remember to mark it okay to print!) and expressing your concerns over his creative decisions. Our voice to Marvel consists of the comics we buy and the letters we write, and if we can’t make our voices be heard with the numbers, the least we can do is let them know what we think of what Rick Remender has been doing.

      Thanks again for taking the time to write such an insightful and well thought-out comment! I appreciate your input very much.

      • koltreg

        Thanks for being cool about replies.

        Couldn’t the reactions to Steve struggling with PTSD been seen as a realistic response to a nation whose armed services want soldiers to continue to fight without much concern unless things get wrong? I’m not arguing that it is a bad thing for the character to deal with because nobody should have to deal with PTSD and the other issues that come up from it, but it may be done on purpose. Though then again it could be problematic. Remender has done these kind of broken male characters before in FEAR Agent so he may be falling back without really considering the character as Steve.

        For the second part though, Steve raising a child, losing that child, feeling like nobody was looking for him for 11 years – these are newer situations. I think it may be pressing a bit hard on the “Being a father changes everything” trope just like many comics push the “Being a mother changes everything.” It is a totally different experience to lose the one human face you’ve known and raised for the past 11 years. It’s like the first time he lost almost everything, it was this wave of everything hitting and he never got to really live with it as much (partially due to how comics were written) and then here, the kid is the one thing he really had left. I am on the line about the depiction. It might have been something better served if they gave it more time which sounds kid of horrible since the story was problematic, but an 11 year connection with the last person like you in a world, a person you raised. That is a painful connection to lose when it is all you have. Still divided, though you made solid points.

        As for UA stuff, I’ve read few interviews with Remender. I was on the bandwagon that attacked him for the issue early on without reading it and decided to ignore it till I read the series. And he can be dickish and part of it has to be from a very reactionary fanbase who have people getting riled up over almost anything at the drop of the hat so actual issues and qualms get ignored. But yeah, if Remender believes Alex is right, it is pretty horrible.

        As for the note on UA 15 though, I really doubt they are staying dead. There was no press buzz on it, though it was pretty tasteless.

        I’m not buying either series myself right now and my friend whose digital copies I was reading also stopped though so I’d be more than happy to send on an email.

        • http://therainbowhub.com/ Eve

          That’s a very good point! You’re definitely right in saying that there is a lot of pressure for those in the armed services to be constantly able to be in combat, so there’s certainly a precedent for what you’re thinking about. I think if what you’re suggesting was in fact where Remender was taking this portion of Steve’s arc, it could be a very positive thing, if it were portrayed as the fact that he is not ready for combat and is expected to be and that expectation is something that isn’t good. We’ll have to wait and see, but given Remender’s sensitivity levels, I kind of think that’s not what he intends to do.

          Losing a child is a terrible, traumatic, emotionally destroying thing that can happen in someone’s life, and I don’t deny the fact that the grief and the loss and the confusion of purpose that Steve would be feeling must be overwhelming. Yet the fact that he is continually ashamed of his grief, as if it’s something that needs to be hidden, strikes me as both very out of character and as a negative stereotype that should be countered (and hasn’t been) if it’s portrayed in the media by a character who is a role model and someone who is looked up to.

          Considering that both Rogue and the Scarlet Witch are due to be in upcoming blockbuster movies in 2014 and 2015 (no such luck for Wonder Man), I’d agree that their deaths are likely to be temporary. That unfortunately doesn’t discount the fact that UA 15 showed us the graphic, bloody deaths of two important female heroes in the space of one issue as vehicles for man-pain, one of whom killed the other because she was ~irrationally emotional and violent~ (which was very much out of character for Rogue). No matter if they’re resurrected in the next issue, the fact remains that they died, and died horribly, and are yet another example of female characters being fridged with no fanfare and no reaction other than shrugs of “oh, it’s comics, people die all the time, they don’t really stay dead, it doesn’t matter.” But it does matter, since every female character who dies on panel is one less hero within whom female readers of comics see themselves. The callous and frankly routine way that the fridging of women is treated in the comics industry is highly problematic, and isn’t something we should still be buying into.

          The voice of comic readers is one of the strongest tools fans have in letting big companies like Marvel know that what they’re doing and selling isn’t something that we’re okay with, so I do encourage you to send an email! It doesn’t have to be long or involved, but the more voices that say “We don’t agree with what you’re doing” in a way that Marvel can hear, the more chances we have of making a difference.

  • Ximm

    I really enjoyed this article and it had some fine, well reasoned arguments. However I did want to point out something about the scene with Wasp saying “ant”. It is entirely possible that I have not read certain issues and am unclear about this… but I believe in current, modern comics Janet is on friendly terms again with Hank aka Ant-Man. She has been shown to get along with him and to have moved past the event, however refusing to go back into a relationship with a man who physically abused her… she is willing to be there for her friend who is bipolar. When I read the scene of Janet having problems saying “ant” it was because she didn’t want to say it because it was cliche considering her powers/history/theme. Similarly to being cat-themed and saying “purr-fect”, Janet didn’t want to be the one to say about something being akin to an ant. However, like I said, I could be missing some things. While I in no way condone what Hank did to Janet or any of the egregious behavior pointed out in the article, let alone defend it, I did wish to say that I hadn’t read that scene as offensive on my first read-through.

    • http://therainbowhub.com/ Eve

      Hi, Ximm! Thanks for your wonderful and insightful comment on these issues. I definitely agree with you that there are always multiple ways to read scenes, especially in comics, and I think this one certainly fits into that category. My instinctive reaction was that Jan didn’t want to be reminded of ants, or possibly even use the word ant, due to its association with Hank and their shared past, rather than her own.

      We’ve seen very little interaction between Hank and Jan since her return from the Microverse, as Hank’s been busy in “Avengers A.I.” and Jan’s mostly been in “Uncanny Avengers” (and a few other comics as well, like “Avengers Assemble”). So as of this point, I would say I don’t have a clear picture of the current state of Jan and Hank’s relationship, be that friends or what have you. It’s very possible that their relationship is at a healthy state right now, which would negate my understanding of the scene as someone shying away from an upsetting word, but I haven’t read any comics with both of them as characters since the end of the last volume of Avengers (right before the Marvel NOW! reboot), so I can’t say for sure.

      Thanks again for your thoughts!

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